In-depth conversations about the things that actually matter for building long-term wealth.
69 episodes 58 guests 1,276,213 views
How an episode works
Who do you think the next 100 million users on chain are going to be?
Humans or machines?

I think it's all machines.
A short, direct question about what happens next. Then as long as the answer takes.
The questions come from the host, Alessandro Gibilaro. The answers come from people who run money, run funds or build the companies the question is about, and every one of them is theirs: a view, not advice. A typical episode runs 58 minutes and is free on YouTube from start to finish.
More questions from the show, and what came back
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Bitcoin higher or lower by year end?
37:48 Higher.
Anthony ScaramucciWatch this moment (37:52) -
Is it capital just finding its way to AI?
33:46 Yeah. I think so. ... The AI market's still attracting a lot of money. Most of the money in the world is still parked there.
Tavi Costa, Partner, Crescat CapitalWatch this moment (33:51) -
Do you think that AI has any chance of creating a better form of money?
49:50 Nobody has thus far been able to theorize what could be a better form of money than Bitcoin.
Cory Klippsten, Founder and CEO, SwanWatch this moment (50:05) -
How are you investing right now?
59:52 I am not what I would call an active investor. ... I am largely in cash and metals.
Melody WrightWatch this moment (59:57)
What the guests are arguing about
Five questions keep coming back. Not every guest gives the same answer.
Every answer below is in the guest's own words and links to the second they said it. These are their views, not advice.
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Are governments now propping up markets, and at what cost?
Liquidity, central banks and the Treasury: who is really setting prices, and what that does to what your money buys.

What is going on in these markets that's different to the markets that you used to play in?
1:20 Where's this crash I was promised? ... It's all about liquidity and they basically have outlawed recessions and bear markets, but at what cost?
George Noble, Former manager, Fidelity Overseas FundWatch this moment (1:27) -

Main street inflation destroys your income. Monetary inflation, the devaluation of the currency of denomination, destroys your wealth.
Michael Howell, Founder, CrossBorder CapitalWatch this moment (22:29)Hear it -

What Bitcoin and gold are sniffing out ... they're seeing that this ends in money printing. This is yield curve control.
Joe ConsortiWatch this moment (8:23)
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Is AI a boom, a bubble, or both?
Where the money for AI comes from, who earns it back, and what it does to work.

Bubbles are a feature of capitalism. We had a railroad bubble and after the bubble burst we had railroads.
Ed Dowd, Former BlackRock portfolio managerWatch this moment (10:11)Hear it -

How big of a wave do you want to be riding? There's a trillion dollars of AI capex that is going to be deployed in the next couple years every year. ... Do you want to be riding a small wave or do you want to be riding a big wave?
Santiago Santos, Founder and CEO, InversionWatch this moment (41:52) -

I think the coming crash in tech is going to be spectacular.
George Noble, Former manager, Fidelity Overseas FundWatch this moment (53:25)
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Who buys Bitcoin from here?
Wall Street advisers, ETFs, companies that hold it, and the guests who are not convinced.

What do you think happens to Bitcoin over the next few years?
20:05 I think it comes under a lot of challenge. I'm not incredibly bullish on Bitcoin.
Emad Mostaque, Founder, Stability AIWatch this moment (20:08) -

That's the next wave of capital. And I cannot overstate how massive of a tidal wave it is and how slow it's currently moving and how early we are in its adoption.
Ryan Rasmussen, Head of Research, BitwiseWatch this moment (29:58) -

Analog money that can't be printed, gold, and digital money that can't be printed, Bitcoin.
Larry Lepard, Author of The Big Print, fund managerWatch this moment (33:08)Hear it
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What holds its value when the money does not?
Gold, silver, Bitcoin and the case for money that cannot be printed.

If you are Treasury Secretary, what would you do here?
15:59 I would monetize gold. There is a way that you can pick your price of gold and essentially depreciate the dollar against gold.
Arthur Hayes, Co-founder, BitMEXWatch this moment (16:03) -

The house didn't get more valuable. The money got worse.
Mark Yusko, CEO and CIO, Morgan Creek CapitalWatch this moment (17:51) -

You don't buy gold to get rich. You buy gold to avoid becoming dirt poor.
Jack GambleWatch this moment (52:42) -

There's strong, powerful arguments that China probably holds 60,000 tons of gold.
Stephen Leeb, Chairman and CIO, Leeb Capital ManagementWatch this moment (39:46)
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Is the next financial system being built on crypto?
Stocks, payments and AI agents moving on-chain, from the people building it.

The total market cap of crypto is still less than Nvidia, one stock in the United States.
David Schamis, Runs Hyperliquid StrategiesWatch this moment (2:48) -

Do you think that privacy is the last missing layer of blockchain, or is there something else?
1:42 I think it's a combination of both privacy and identity.
Fahmi Syed, President, Midnight FoundationWatch this moment (1:49) -

AI is a front end and the blockchain markets is a back end.
Illia Polosukhin, Co-founder, NEARWatch this moment (1:40)
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Guests
58 guests so far. The newest first.
Fund managers, founders, strategists and authors. Each name opens their latest episode. Ten have come back for more than one conversation.
- Illia Polosukhin Co-founder, NEAR
- Fahmi Syed President, Midnight Foundation
- Santiago Santos Founder and CEO, Inversion
- David Schamis Runs Hyperliquid Strategies
- Arthur Hayes Co-founder, BitMEX
- Stephen Leeb Chairman and CIO, Leeb Capital Management
- Mark Yusko CEO and CIO, Morgan Creek Capital
- George Noble Former manager, Fidelity Overseas Fund
- Ryan Navi CIO, Forward Industries
- Jack Gamble
- Cory Klippsten Founder and CEO, Swan
- Vincent Deluard Global macro strategy, StoneX
- Francis Hunt Founder, The Market Sniper
- Emad Mostaque Founder, Stability AI
- Joe Consorti
- Bart Smith CEO, Avalanche Treasury Corporation
- Iskandar Vanblarcum Managing Director, Crypto.com Exchange
- Michael Howell Founder, CrossBorder Capital
- Tavi Costa Partner, Crescat Capital
- Doomberg Finance publication on Substack
- Clem Chambers Founder, ADVFN
- Ryan Rasmussen Head of Research, Bitwise
- Larry Lepard Author of The Big Print, fund manager
- Lance Roberts
- Anthony Scaramucci
- Haseeb Qureshi
- Mike McGlone Bloomberg strategist
- Melody Wright
- Scott Melker
- Fred Krueger
- Gareth Soloway
- Larry McDonald
- James Lavish
- Ed Dowd Former BlackRock portfolio manager
- Yat Siu
- Nomi Prins
- Brent Donnelly
- Rick Rule
- Joseph Wang
- Henrik Zeberg
- Ram Ahluwalia
- Andy (The Rollup)
- Michael Bentley
- Andy Schectman
- Jeff Booth
- Kyle Chasse
- Dave Weisberger
- Peter Schiff
- Michael van de Poppe
- Nick Bencino
- Eric Krown
- Ben Cowen
- OSF
- Jiahao Sun
- Robby Yung
- Alex Gluchowski
- Ran Neuner
- Matt Hougan
Who watches
85.8% of the views come from people aged 35 and over.
92.5% come from men. The US is 45.4% of views, then the UK (13.1%), Canada (5.8%) and Australia (4.5%). 57.0% of watch time is on a phone.
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A typical episode from the last twenty has 10,112 views. The first twenty had 2,908.

The host
Alessandro Gibilaro asks the questions.
Alessandro Gibilaro hosts Risk Takers. He also hosts his own show on Crypto Banter, a channel with 1.18 million subscribers, and is based in the UK.
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